Ali Abdaal - Mark Tilbury

Darshan Mudbasal
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March 24, 2023

1) Mark Tilbury shares his story of leaving school at age 16 with no qualifications and no money. He knew he wanted to be self-employed and had already tried out different side hustles. He eventually became a carpenter and after a few years, left his job when he got bored making the same wooden trash bins for Walmart/Capacitor. Tilbury encourages young people to explore trades and apprenticeships, as they not only provide a skill but also teach one about life and the world.

2) Mark discusses the notion of going to university and how it is seen as the default option for many people. He believes that it is often a waste of time and a lot of money when people do not know what they want to do. Tilbury suggests that taking a year out to try different jobs is a great way to discover one's interests and avoid going into debt unnecessarily. He advises against going to university unless it is necessary for the chosen career and points out that many people who come out of university struggle to find jobs relevant to their degrees.

3) Mark discusses his early side hustles before becoming a successful entrepreneur. He reveals his experience buying and selling cars as a carpenter and joiner, always buying cars he liked and selling them for double the price with a little valeting. Eventually, he sold all his working hours and recognized the importance of investing and having money work for him in the long term. Tilbury also shares his mindset towards work-life balance and relationships, prioritizing his time and being 100% committed when he has the time, but not worrying about finding the perfect balance or partner.

4) Mark discusses the concept of selling your time and how people get trapped by earning a daily amount of money. He highlights that the value people give to their work is the value they receive, but eventually, everyone is capped by the limited time they have in a day. To break from this limitation, Tilbury believes one must make their money work for them through investing. He notes that YouTube has become a significant tool for learning about finance and business, filling the gap that schools haven't been able to cover. Tilbury also encourages people to not be afraid of starting a business and emphasizes that people don't have to be experts in every area to be successful, as they learn as they go along.

5) Mark discusses the limitations that were present in the past when it came to exploring career options and how the availability of information has positively impacted people's ability to explore and pursue their passions. He mentions the importance of the entrepreneurial spirit and how it cannot necessarily be taught, but those who have it can develop it further. He emphasizes the significance of enjoying what you do, as it makes it easier to push through the challenges and succeed in your chosen career or business. Mark uses his own experience in racing and radio-controlled models to underscore the importance of having a passion for what one does.

6) Mark discusses the difference between treating a passion as a hobby versus treating it like a business, and how it changes the way you approach it. He shares the story of how he started his business, Right Wing Control Models, and had to create a detailed business plan, which he took to the bank manager, only to be turned down flat. However, he didn't give up and instead turned right to go to the Barclays bank, where he was accepted and even had the bank manager tell him that he would be his first customer.

Mark Tilbury in podcast with Ali Abdaal

7) Mark discusses his thoughts on starting a burger van and how to make it successful. He advises on keeping the menu simple and duplicable, ensuring that it remains consistent for customers on their return visits. When it comes to finding startup capital, he suggests seeking from friends, family, or fools and avoiding taking out a loan or going to venture capitalists. He also explains how starting a digital product business can be advantageous due to the minimal overhead costs and location independence, allowing for the potential of passive income.

8) Mark discusses the misconception of passive income in which someone thinks that they don't have to spend any time or money to earn it. He explains that a passive business still requires an initial investment of time, money, or both. Tilbury advises the importance of having an exit strategy when going into business, making it easy to sell in the future. He gives an example from his own life in which he adapted his business over time, creating a turnkey business that can operate daily with or without his involvement. Tilbury emphasizes the importance of enjoying what you do, stating that it is rewarding to be content with your work, although he advises that having an exit strategy is vital for a sellable business.

9) Mark defines what a business is and explains that it can be as simple as buying something and selling it for a profit or producing something, adding value to it, and selling it for a profit. He notes that a side hustle is essentially a business, and it's only when you go into scale that the problems come. Even repairing model airplanes on the side can be considered a business if you become known for it and start earning money from it. Mark also highlights that it can be hard to understand what you're worth when doing a side hustle and suggests that people often forget the political aspect that influences how individuals view pricing and money.

10) Mark discusses how people have always been after a bargain, which is why businesses like Amazon thrive without declaring profits. However, people tend to undercharge for their services, which ultimately leads to businesses shutting down. Mark cites an example of his mechanic who went out of business because he wasn't charging enough, prompting him to urge people to charge a little more to experiment in business. Additionally, some people fear charging more due to concerns about losing customers or ripping someone off. Mark believes that skills take a long time to establish, and if customers think what you're doing is worth more than what you're charging, that's an important amount of money.

11) Mark discusses the importance of value-based pricing and the story of the man who fixed a computer in 5 minutes and charged £20,000. He explains that pricing should be based on the value provided rather than the cost of producing a product or service. He also shares his model business, which includes selling products through shops, eBay, and their website, as well as a design, import, manufacturing, and distribution business. Tilbury mentions that he still enjoys being behind the counter and selling products to customers directly. Furthermore, he shares the story of the Riot model airplane, which he designed when he was 14 years old and now manufactures in China and Vietnam under his own brand.

12) Mark Tilbury talks about the enjoyment of physical hobbies, the importance of the experience of visiting a shop, and how it is different from shopping online. He also discusses his revenue streams, such as investing and YouTube, which he shares 50/50 with his son. Moreover, he shares his thoughts on buying versus renting a house, expressing his preference for buying, paying off loans, and securing a stable future. Finally, he mentions his son's opposite perspective, being younger and having more time to pay down loans.

13) Mark discusses the main questions he receives from his audience around finance, including what to invest in to become rich quickly. He emphasizes the importance of long-term wealth and advocates for investing in index funds, which he believes is one of the simplest and most tax-efficient ways to achieve this. He encourages individuals to see the investment as a safety net and a reminder of what they have achieved. When asked about advice for people with small disposable income, he suggests making more money by finding other sources of income, even if it involves working part-time in addition to regular employment. He acknowledges that some people may feel they are already working too hard to pay off debts, but suggests paying off high debts as a way to become financially stable.

14) Mark emphasizes the importance of paying off debts, living below your means, and finding ways to earn more money. He suggestsvtaking action and finding ways to earn extra income rather than just reading and seeking advice. While he acknowledges the value of saving money, he emphasizes that people should not miss out on things they enjoy in order to invest. Additionally, the speaker has not read the book "Die with Zero," but he explains how people should aim to live life to the fullest before retirement and not worry too much about saving every penny.

Mark Tilbury

15) Mark discusses the balance between enjoying one's work and the value of generational wealth. He emphasizes the importance of having enjoyable experiences throughout one's life, as those are the things that truly matter in the end. Tilbury also talks about his regrets, particularly his wish to have spent more time with his son while he was growing up. While he enjoys giving to charity, he believes that people often give for the sake of appearing to be charitable rather than truly wanting to help. Overall, Tilbury emphasizes the value of hard work and enjoying the benefits that come with it.

16) Mark emphasizes that honesty with one's partner is crucial, as the partnership is a contract and unfulfilled expectations can create problems. Tilbury admits that he focused on his hobbies and competitions even when his wife went into labor to have his son. Despite the roller coaster of disagreements and revisions, Tilbury finds working with his son equally fulfilling as getting good comments back from viewers regarding changing their lives. The endgame for the content side of the business is hard to predict.Tilbury finds the positive impact on people's lives to be incredibly rewarding.

17) Mark discusses the positive effects of sharing knowledge and experience for free through content creation. He shares his mentor's philosophy of passing on knowledge for free, as he believes that feeling useful in helping people achieve better results than they thought possible is reward enough. He also talks about the different levels of wealth and how beyond the minimum of around £80,000 a year, more wealth buys improved comfort and experiences but also helps buy back time. Mark highlights the importance of living life in a fulfilled manner, and in a way that you won't have regrets about wasting time or not achieving all that you wanted to when you are on your limited timeline.

18)Tilbury discusses the debate between outsourcing household chores and doing them yourself. He believes that it is important to understand and do these jobs when you are starting out and cannot afford to buy your time back. However, once you have the money to do so, he recommends outsourcing these tasks so that you can focus on more fulfilling activities. Tilbury also talks about the benefits of spending money on things like premium airline seats and rewarding yourself to stay positive and focused on your goals. He emphasizes that finding a balance between frugality and enjoying your wealth is crucial.

19) Mark discusses the interview with Andrew Tate, a former kickboxing champion, and controversial personality. Despite the heated debate surrounding Tate's views, Mark believes it's essential to interview people outside their comfort zone and learn from them.

 

WRITTEN BY
Darshan Mudbasal

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