Jordan Peterson - Miriam Grossman

1) Dr. Miriam Grossman, a physician and author, discusses the dangerous and experimental treatments on children and the betrayal of parents in psychiatry. She highlights the false belief that powerful medications and hormones can deny biology and create a persona of the opposite sex without a huge price. Dr. Grossman further emphasizes the trivialization of risks, such as decreased bone density, the increased probability of cancer, and complete loss of erotic sensation in the nipples associated with gender-affirming treatments. She also discusses herprevious research on sex education and how it led her to her concerns about theclinical front.

2) Miriam discusses the dangerous impact of teaching children the belief system or ideology of gender, which separates gender from sex and encourages children to explore their gender identity. This destabilizing and confusing effect on young people can lead to a psychological epidemic among young women, resulting in increased rates of depression and anxiety. Additionally, constantly providing young people with too many choices can create anxiety rather than freedom, and denying reality should not be celebrated as an option. Furthermore, adding the letter "Q" to"LGBTQ+" and saying that "questioning" can be an identity is problematic.

3) Miriam discusses the concept of identity and how it is socially negotiated in order to have a functional identity. She explains that relying solely on what one feels and enforcing it as their identity is unethical and impractical. Dr. Grossman emphasizes the importance of acknowledging the danger of promoting such a subjective identity as it can lead to existential angst and hopelessness. She also highlights the trauma experienced by parents of young people who have fallen into confusion caused by gender activism.

4) Miriam discusses how parents of children who have expressed a desire to change their gender are often demonized and traumatized by mental health and medical professionals. Grossman states that many parents feel there is an underlying issue causing the gender dysphoria, such as trauma, autism, or anxiety, rather than solely the child's gender identity. She notes that medical professionals have been enticed and even compelled by legislation to lie to parents about the potential risks of gender-affirming care.

5) Miriam discusses the impact of gender ideology on families and parents. She brings up the analogy of a scene from the movie Gone with the Wind, where Scarlett O'Hara walks through a makeshift hospital with injured soldiers, and compares it to the hundreds and thousands of families who have to deal with the emotional trauma of gender ideology. She acknowledges the ripple effect that gender ideology has on siblings, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins, and that it is none of it acknowledged. Grossman describes how she arranged Zoom meetings with 50-60 parents of ROGD children to acknowledge their horrific ordeal and trauma.

6) Miriam discusses her experience speaking to parents of children who are undergoing gender transition. She recognizes the genuine trauma and ongoing grief that these parents face, as well as the lack of recognition from mainstream governing bodies in psychiatry, psychology, and medicine. Dr. Grossman apologizes on behalf of her profession and acknowledges the significant losses and traumas these parents face, including their children's irreversible surgeries and sterilization.

7) Miriam talks about how parental trauma in the current climate of gender ideology is disenfranchised and demonized. Parents who have lost their children to the transgender movement are often alone in their grief as they cannot share it with their family and peers without facing moral condemnation. They often whisper or talk in private as they are afraid of being ostracized or attacked for their beliefs. Miriam provides detailed advice for parents on how to deal with institutions that promote the transgender ideology, such as schools and hospitals, and how to protect their children from surgical sterilization that is often pushed by ideologues. She emphasizes that there is no consensus on this issue, and parents need the confidence and ammunition to stand up for their beliefs.

8) Miriam discusses her upcoming book, "Lost in Translation," and its focus on helping parents understand the gender ideology being pushed in schools and society. She emphasizes the importance of being proactive and getting educated on the issue before children are influenced in this direction. Dr. Grossman also talks about the trauma that families experience when they are targeted by Child Protection Services and the courts, which is a devastating nightmare that conscientious and appropriate parents shouldn't have to experience. She calls the trans agenda evil and believes that the professionals involved in this madness should be penalized with jail sentences.

9) Miriam discusses the history of gender identity according to John Money, who coined the term and introduced the idea that gender identity is completely separate from biology and is one's identity as male or female. Money believed that male and female were a social construct and that everything else in terms of personality and preferences for activities, cognitive abilities, emotional styles, and perceptions are all put on the child in the first two and a half to three years of life, and then it's fixed. Money's expertise was focused on hermaphrodites, which led to theo pening of a center for sex assignment.

10) Miriam discusses the upbringing and background of John Money, an influential sexologist who proposed the theory of gender as separate from biology. Money's childhood was marked by a violent, abusive father and he witnessed his mother being beaten as well. As a result, he developed a negative view of masculinity and his own body, which led him to propose a counter theory that gender is entirely separate from biology. She suggests that Money's theory was an attempt to find a way out of identifying with his abusive father and a monstrous view of masculinity.

11) Miriam discusses the famous landmark study by Dr. John Money, which involved a baby boy who was raised as a girl named Joan. Dr. Money claimed in his reports and lectures that Joan was doing great as a girl and adjusting well with friends, school, and dolls. This theory of gender being a social construct was accepted and became doctrine for decades, leading to a belief that if any child had ambiguous genitalia, they could be castrated and raised as a girl just as Joan was. However, decades later, it was revealed that Joan's adjustment was not good, and this theory was met with challenges by other professionals, which Dr. Money would not tolerate.

12) Miriam discusses the case of David Reimer, a male individual who was raised as a female after a botched circumcision destroyed his penis. Reimer's case served as an experiment for Dr. John Money's gender theory, which was later exposed as a hoax. Reimer suffered from significant trauma and was unhappy with his gender identity throughout his life. Furthermore, Dr. Money sexually abused Reimer and his twin brother during their visits to his clinic. Despite the consequences, Dr. Money's theory was already embedded in society, leading to the widespread use of gender theory in fields such as psychology and sociology.

13) Miriam discusses a book called "My Gender Workbook," which was published in 1998 and presented as a way to rebel against the binary gender system. The book has the premise that the gender binary is oppressive and false since nobody fits into the categories of male or female. It was written by Kate Bornstein, who had a gender journey going back and forth from being male to female to neither. The book was recommended by a major mental health organization, way before gender dysphoria was acknowledged as a disorder. This book confuses young people and fuels the idea of rebellion against the gender binary system, leading to traumatic experiences such as David Reimer's suicide and his twin brother's opiate overdose.

14) Miriam discusses the catastrophic experiment conducted by psychologist John Money on twin boys, which resulted in one of the boys committing suicide later on in life. The medical community believed it to be a success story, when in reality it was a complete failure, and the facts covered up by Money. The interview goes on to suggest that despite the negative outcome of the Money experiment, the psychological and medical fields have doubled down on gender affirmation, ignoring the evidence against it. The book, published in 1998, was much more radical, promoting the new idea that gender is on a spectrum and that it's fluid for life, with people encouraged to explore and question their identity.

15) Miriam discusses the explosive growth of individuals who are coming in for treatment for gender dysphoria in the past 10 years. She mentions that the rates have increased dramatically, with studies showing that 10-20 percent of a high school class in an urban high school in America might identify as not being male or female. Grossman advises parents of this situation and mentions that a minority of people will face suffering because of this. Furthermore, there is no data to support that transition and surgeries do not cause regret later on in life. Grossman insists that the consequences of such massive life changes might take eight to ten years to develop, and those who regret it are not coming back to the clinics since it is too late, and they cannot sue.