Ranveer Allahbadia - Dr. Robert S

1) Dr. Robert discusses astrology and the different Ganas, or categories, in vedic literature. Specifically, he mentions the Deva Gana, Minushya Gana, and Rakshasa Gana, explaining each category's characteristics and which category may be more suited for a person based on their tendencies. He also mentions the dangers of getting involved with certain spiritual practices, and how having a guru can help prevent any potential harm to the individual.

2) Dr. Robert S. discusses the potential dangers of working with ethereal beings and the importance of knowing the rules before getting involved. He also talks about his own experiences with Agori rituals, including offering his own blood, which he does not do deliberately but rather when it is required by the deity. He explains that the first step in becoming an Agori is finding a guru, and that there are different opinions on what it means to be an Agori, with some believing that it requires living in a certain way all the time.

3) Robert discusses the concept of Aghori and the origin story of Agoreshwara, a great saint who practiced sadhna in the cremation grounds. He explains that Aghori is all about something that is hard to digest conceptually, and it differs from individual to individual. He shares his personal experience with Aghori, which includes offering blood and working with skulls, intoxicants, and Nasha. The idea behind the intoxicants is to temporarily change your way of organizing your personality and focus on the devatai you are trying to concentrate on.

4) Robert discusses the Sanskrit word "aveja," which means allowing various things to enter oneself and express themselves through an individual. He mentions that it's a high level of practice and not something one should attempt alone. He shares that he has experienced this state and talks about how the first time happened when he was a teenager and not present for a while, but people told him that he was talking about different things. He also acknowledges that he might be carrying things from his past lives, which could be the reason for his alignment with skulls, vimal Ananda, and Bombay.

5) Robert recounts a story of being called by a guard in his building who thought there might be a dead body in one of the apartments due to a bad smell. He confirms the dead body and signs off on its removal. While he deals with cremating dead bodies regularly, including his own guru, he does not partake in high-level rituals such as eating the flesh of dead bodies because it involves taking on the karma of the body, and it requires a good reason to do so.

6) Robert discusses the effects of different substances on the body, including human flesh, which he states is a kind of intoxicant that affects the body in a particular way. He also speaks about the importance of understanding Guna, which refers to the qualities, attributes, and characteristics of different substances and actions, in Ayurveda, and how different substances can impact the liver and brain. According to Robert, Vimilananda said that the only reason to eat human flesh is if there is a karmic debt between the two individuals that needs to be resolved.

7) Robert explains the concept of binding karmic debt between two people and how to get rid of them. He also talks about Vemo Ananda, who specialized in understanding this concept better. They discuss how Guru's orders can help manage karmic debt, and Dr. Robert explains how one can eat human flesh if Guru orders to do so. They also discussed the concept of consuming feces and its importance in Aghori culture. He explains that focusing on spiritual progress is always essential, and it should be done by reciting mantras or praying, similar to typical rituals.

8) Robert talks about his experience at Nyaneshwar's samadhi in Alandi where they performed Puja. He shares the story of Yogics age Changdev who had to wait for about 1400 years to meet his Guru, highlighting the significance of not worrying about time while on a spiritual journey. He also addresses the widespread consumption of weed in India and its role in Hinduism and spirituality, mentioning that it is a plant in Ayurveda that has been used for medicinal purposes.

9) Robert discusses the traditional use of bhang and other cannabis products in Hinduism, particularly as an offering to Lord Shiva. While bhang is sometimes used for medicinal purposes, it is also meant to be a tool for spiritual practice, helping individuals break down the barriers between their awareness and physical existence. However, he emphasizes that the use of any substance should be done with intention and purpose, such as through meditation or worship, rather than as an excuse for non-spiritual activities. The frequency of cannabis use among sadhus varies depending on the individual and their practice.

10) Robert talks about his experiences with different types of poisons, including datura and snake venom that had been prepared in a particular way. He explains that some people become permanently insane from datura, and that it is important to know what poisons one feels comfortable with. He also describes an incident where he had smoked a chillum with some kind of extra poison in it and then had to drive, feeling the pressure of the chuttas and the expectation of his companions.

11) Robert S. discusses how the original Soma was something that only advanced people could see, and that there are different substances that can have a similar effect on individuals if prepared and used properly. He mentions that some people believe the sticks consumed in Agora might be either ephedra or something called Sarco stemi, but Vimalananda believed differently. According to him, different people will find that different substances prepared in different ways will have an effect of Soma on them, and only a tiny number of people will be able to connect to the devatad they’re trying to connect to. Dr. Robert S. also talks about his experience interacting with other spiritually intuitive people and how they’re not trying to show off, but simply doing their own sadhana.

12) Robert discusses the phenomenon of different personalities or possession and how it could happen without the current version of someone knowing what's going on. He compares it to multiple personality disorder and how different personalities cause different things to happen in their bodies. He also emphasizes the importance of regularly doing pit through tarapuna, which is the worship of ancestors, as they can possess us because we have their genes and chromosomes. He mentions that Emperor Akbar would occasionally make jokes about how different the times he found himself in, and he would allow people to ask him questions during the interactions.

13) Robert explains that the possession of a human deity is different from possession by a non-human entity because it is easier to interact with them. He shares that Vimalananda would request for something else to come through him if he knew he had a karma to do with someone that he did not want to take on. Vimalananda emphasizes that there is no limit to knowledge, and great experiencers like him spend hundreds of years experiencing things and trying to figure out the bestway to cause harmony. Robert quotes Vimalananda, saying, "Where even a poet cannot reach, the experiencer can reach."

14) Robert talks about the reason why Rishis live for thousands and tens of thousands of years. They know that they could dissolve and return to the Supreme reality, but they still strive to maintain their reality. It's a very subtle distinction for them, and they're always refining it even after thousands of years. Dr. S. also believes that the conversation with Aghori Baba happened because he wanted more people to know about what he was doing and why he was doing it, and he was interested in working with larger groups of people. Dr. S. recommends that people read the book Agora as a good place to begin if they want to know about what it means to be serious about making spiritual progress.